I Like Almost All Pontiacs

"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4) 02/02/2017 at 22:38 • Filed to: None

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But all N-body Grand Ams are hateful piles of garbage. If I could pick any one car to rid the Earth of, they’d all be gone.

Worst for last:

It may be the only car I legitimately hate. Just disgusting.

Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:42

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Don’t worry, they are either in the junkyard or will be very soon. I can’t remember the last time I saw one.

E90M3 > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:44

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One of my roommates in college had a 2001 Grand Am GT. That thing had so many problems, but it was unkillable. I remember he came to Roswell to have lunch with me one day, he got to the restaurant we were meeting at and he put the car in park. Then by itself it just started to rev. He turned it off got out of the car and was like, it does that.  

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:44

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But then LoganSteno’s brother would have to walk everywhere.

InFierority Complex > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:46

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Do the worn out a/c vents make up for it?

Urambo Tauro > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:46

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Pontiacs were pretty consistent for being better looking than their GM platform-mates. I honestly can’t think of any exceptions to this.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 02/02/2017 at 22:46

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Sacrifices must be made.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:49

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I can only speak for the gen 5, but it really isn’t that bad of a car. I expected it to be far worse than it is in every aspect and was honestly surprised. I actually like driving my brother’s more than my S10.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > InFierority Complex 02/02/2017 at 22:50

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This needs a million stars.

shop-teacher > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 22:53

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See, I think the last one is the best of them ... not that it’s saying much.

The top one is a dead ringer to the one I helped my friend and his wife pick out. She was driving his Dakota while he was deployed in Iraq, and despite the fact that the Dakota had lived a pampered life of less that 5 years and 50k miles, was falling the hell apart. When he was back for his 2-weeks R&R they traded the turd in on the Grand Am. I inspected it for crash damage. Which the first one they tried to buy had plenty of evidence of. As ugly as it was, and as bad as the interior was, it served them well for several years and tons of miles. Gadamn was that thing ugly though.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Urambo Tauro 02/02/2017 at 22:54

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Olds was better by a landslide on the N-platform.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > InFierority Complex 02/02/2017 at 22:54

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No

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 22:57

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So that means you can sacrifice your Firebird for him to drive then.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > shop-teacher 02/02/2017 at 22:58

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Modern “Ram Air” Pontiacs must be exterminated

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:00

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Some Bonneville to cleanse the palate:

These are such handsome cars. Fully optioned out they’re nice as hell to be in, but even the 43k mile example I rode in had a few annoying rattles.

It’s rare enough to see these around in decent condition, even rarer to see them without horridly fogged up headlights or messed up tail lights

This right here is so much goals. Dark green SSEi with gold laces. FWIW this is the color my Riviera was supposed to be. This is what the damn can of paint looked like.

Embrace the plastic and the world’s best 90s wheels.

One of the best ass-ends any car in the early 2000s ever had. And that little lip spoiler is perfect.

Urambo Tauro > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:00

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I never really cared much for the Alero’s styling, but I forgot about those FWD Cutlasses! Come to think of it, the early ’90s Skylarks were pretty slick-looking too:

Jagvar > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:01

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Here is a better Pontiac.

not for canada - australian in disguise > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:01

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The Wave/G3 was worse. What pathetic shitboxes these cars were. Every car on the platform was bad, but the Wave is the worst because it tarnishes the good (or at least to me) name of subcompact Pontiacs.

The Firefly Turbo doesn’t deserve to be associated with this damnit.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:01

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S10's can be made interesting, Grand Ams should all be crushed yesterday.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:04

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You can’t sacrifice a Firebird, they are eternal. He can have a W-body Grand Prix.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:04

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What about Aztecs?

shop-teacher > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:06

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Hahaha! I’ve never watched that show, but my dad likes to imitate those ... whatever they are.

I see where you’re coming from, given your anti-WS6 proclivities, but you are wrong.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 02/02/2017 at 23:08

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Mmmmm... you know how I love those last Bonnies.

However, this is a Buick/Olds with some cheap plastic cladding:

Worst Bonnie.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:10

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If the Grand Am doesn’t have the plastic cladding and has the one motor not from the 1980s under the hood, both features my brother’s has, it really isn’t bad. Cavaliers and Sunfires are far worse vehicles.

V8 swapping an S10 (which is all you can really do to them) doesn’t make it interesting. You just end up with an overpowered ox car with junky wheel bearings, recirculating ball steering, and a front suspension pulled off an 80s B-body wagon.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > not for canada - australian in disguise 02/02/2017 at 23:10

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It’s still a better car than those Grand Ams. Still not a good car, but not hateful.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 02/02/2017 at 23:11

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Ahead of their time. Not great, but they don’t deserve the flack they get.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:16

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You just lost all argument credibility saying a goddamn Daewoo even the most hardcore GM fanboys attest to being the biggest steaming piles of shit, is better.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:17

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No, the Grand Am is peak GM just not giving a fuck. They couldn’t be bothered to style it, or engineer it, or even put them together with any sort of intent for them to stay together for more than 5 minutes. The Grand Am was the beginning of the death of Pontiac which ended with the G6. It’s a bad car in every way.

Baeromez > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:18

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My first car was an 01 GT. I rolled it doing about 80. None of the windows (including the sunroof) had a crack in them.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:18

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#triggered

RallyWrench > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:19

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Poor little fella

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:20

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Good point. The oldsmobile was probably the best looking of that badge-engineering exercise.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:21

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Not at all, I just cant comprehend someone thinking an aveo is anything more than the worst car ever made outside of maybe something Chinese. And even some of that trash could give it a run for its money.

WilliamsSW > InFierority Complex 02/02/2017 at 23:23

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Now THAT is peak IDGAF GM.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:26

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Except the G3 was a 2000's econobox and nobody cared. The Grand Am was the death of an iconic nameplate.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:27

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“which is all you can really do to them”

[ignorance intensifies]

Prerunner

Prerunner

Bagged and channeled mini-truck

bagged 383 stroker minitruck

Truck sex on wheels

Track bitch

Stock car.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Baeromez 02/02/2017 at 23:29

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I applaud your destruction of a Grand Am without inflicting serious bodily harm on yourself.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:32

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Montana

Torrent

G3

G5

Vibe

The Grand Am at least got it’s own interior design and different fascias, much like your car compared to a Camaro. Those one I just listed are literally nothing more than a Pontiac grille on a different GM car. Hell, GM couldnt even be bothered to engineer the vibe themselves!

GM at least give a sliver of a fuck in the 90s even with the cheap shitboxes, the mid 2000s were peak not give a fuck across the board.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > RallyWrench 02/02/2017 at 23:35

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The Olds was the one to have. They came with the 190hp W41 Quad-4 and won the touring car championship of the SCCA World Challenge from 1992-1994

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 02/02/2017 at 23:36

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So do you wanna come take the godawful thing off my hands then? Because even after all that it’s still a too small, rough riding, poorly engineered truck that will always be overshadowed by the infinitely better full-size models.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:37

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All

quantitatively

better

cars

RallyWrench > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:38

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I remember that, because World Challenge touring was partially meant to engage euro and Japanese car enthusiasts and everyone was dumbfounded that the hip new series for the kids was won by... an Oldsmobile.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:38

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You

Are

Incredibly

Delusional

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:39

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Give ya a dollar for it.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:40

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That’s because it’s: A: a truck. and B: not a full size truck.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:44

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What happened to all the love you had for it?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:47

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Nope. Ford Tempo. Except they’re probably all dead already, so it won’t take long.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 02/02/2017 at 23:47

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It went back to a rusty turd of a BMW you all loved to hate so much.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/02/2017 at 23:50

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I’m incredibly right is what I am. Nuke them all from orbit

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > RallyWrench 02/02/2017 at 23:51

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The W41 Quad-4 is my favorite hi-po engine that nobody seems to remember.

Tohru > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/02/2017 at 23:54

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I can confirm. I briefly owned one. I payed $300 for it and was ripped off.

RallyWrench > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/02/2017 at 23:59

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Pepperidge Farm remembers

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/03/2017 at 00:01

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Also hateful, but they rarely blight my vision.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Tohru 02/03/2017 at 00:01

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Did you crush it?

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > RallyWrench 02/03/2017 at 00:05

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Aerotech is best car. If I had infinite money I would have GM make me one.

I love them.

RallyWrench > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/03/2017 at 00:11

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Me too, they absolutely blew my mind as a boy. Had a poster of this one.

HammerheadFistpunch > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/03/2017 at 00:15

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If they all disappeared what would rural teens use to get to school and use as a false base for performance expectations?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/03/2017 at 00:45

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Your GMs were much more dependable though.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > HammerheadFistpunch 02/03/2017 at 01:06

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F-150s, as the lord intended.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/03/2017 at 01:07

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W-bodies were, n-bodies are just junk.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/03/2017 at 01:09

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I swear to god those last gen Grand Ams were the most common car in my hometown when I was in highscool (2005-8). I remember one day I walked about 5 blocks and saw 9 of them 2 were GTs. I hate the GTs the most. I think these replaced them...I guess it’s an improvement.At least it doesn’t have fat rolls.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > RallyWrench 02/03/2017 at 01:11

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Those wheels are hot.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 02/03/2017 at 01:16

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My wife’s uncle claimed he beat an SSIE Bonneville in his 4 cylinder Dodge Stratus. My wife’s Uncle is a known liar.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/03/2017 at 01:20

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My dad Topaz forever ago, I like it when I was a kid. Then my sister in law had a Tempo when she married my brother. It set itself on fire, the. She got a Volvo 740.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 02/03/2017 at 08:02

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No, it’s not. It’s literally the worst car sold in America in the past 20 years. I’ve been in the two cars in comparison, and the Grand Am feels luxurious and built like a tank in comparison.

oldmxer > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/03/2017 at 08:19

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back when they were new I kinda liked the styling, but I rented one and couldn’t wait to return it, that seat was worse than anything ever, the back was no support for lumbar, but the top and side bolsters pushed my shoulders forward, made me have new respect for my Escort

suba-wagen > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/10/2017 at 01:16

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My first car was a 92 Grand Am with the quad 4. I owned it 3 months before the rear suspension broke.

Tohru > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/10/2017 at 18:27

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I put a new fuel pump in it and sold it for $700